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    Hi all,

    Well, now it sounds like my son is popping his shoulder right out of the socket!!! It sounds gross! It doesn't seem to hurt him, but I am concerned it will get sore and set the stage for arthritis in the future. I suggested he might move the arm in a different way (not to stop moving it) and he gets mad and says he can't help it. I guess I should just let him alone, but I feel like I have to help. I hope you know where I am coming from as a parent. My hubby is able to ignore it no matter what our son is ticcing. I, on the other hand, am much more neurotic. Should I basically ignore this new (and old) tics?
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    Grammy1

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    Hi all,

    Son is still shoulder popping and complaining of soreness/pain in shoulder. Is this typical to have soreness/pain from these repetitive motions? I gave him some pain reliever before he went to bed. Today was the last day of school so there has been a bit more excitement going on this last week of school. On a good note, he got an award for All Around Role Model Student! So behavior is not a problem with him anywhere except at home. Any suggestions for pain relief or how to minimalize it? Thanks.

    Grammy

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    Hi Grammy,

    Congratulations to your son on his award!!!

    I am sorry that you didn't get a response to your first post here. Somehow, I must have missed it.

    I have heard that popping your shoulder out of the socket is something that is extremely painful. Can he possible swing the arm around in the socket or get someone to pull on his arm?

    I don't know if this will cause him to get arthritis but I can imagine that he is hurting the joint that his arm is in.

    I am not sure how to relieve it, maybe a cold pack.

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    I talked to my chiropractor - a good doctor for the list of specialists for Touretters in general - and he told me that I am not dislocating my shoulder. I roll my shoulder a lot, and it HURTS most of the time. It makes some pretty Stephen King sounds. The correct term is 'separating' the shoulder. I am not pulling it out of the socket. That would mean a trip to the hospital, typically. What we're doing is just creating some space between the ball and the socket of the shoulder joint. So it is not as bad as it sounds, but it is not great.

    The sound is the movement of sinovial (sp?) fluid through the areas of the joints. It is like the sound of a popping balloon, loud but not really as bad as it sounds. It is just gas moving from one area to another, not bone crunching. "Knuckle cracking" is actually "the area around the knuckles cracking".

    Arthritis does not attack areas that are stressed (same doctor here) but if I get arthritis in a TS area, then I'll be in for a bad time, pain wise. Same thing with sports folks. Playing baseball does not automatically mean pain in the elbows or knees, but if you do get arthritis there, it'll be worse than normal.

    But, really, these are pretty typical problems for most older adults. Touretters have to worry about them, but at least we know ahead of time what to expect. I lived with a woman who got diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis, and WOW, I'd rather have TS any day. Rheumatoid is the one that disfigures you, typically in the hands. And it just snuck up on her, no warning at all. So remember, it could be worse.

    PS: the BEST way to get someone to tic more is to draw any attention to it. You help your son best by ignoring the shoulder rolling tic, and supporting him in general, like with trips to the chiropractor.
    Darin M. Bush, The Tourette Tiger, author of "Tiger Trails"
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    you should talk to both a to a doctor who specializes in that type of a tic

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    Hi TT,

    Thanks for the explanation of the shoulder popping. I guess the reason I said it comes out of the socket if because I can see it pop/jump around. He doesn't mind that tic as much as the head/neck ticcing sideways. He seems okay with the shoulder popping. I have gotten better at ignoring the tics also. Thanks.

    Hi AQ,

    He just had his first visit with the neurologist last Tuesday and the doctor didn't seem alarmed about the shoulder popping. He saw him do it. So I guess it is something he has seen before. Thanks.


    Grammy

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    I have a 7 year old daughter, and she started ticcing almost on her birthday. One for the books.

    I have to say, I have had far worse tics in various places then any that I have seen in her. However, when she started doing the eye flicking (turning sideways - what is that, "yaw"?) it hurt me from across the room. The tics in your own child are a different kind of pain, worse in a way.

    You have to remember that we are NOT in a Hollywood movie. When Mel Gibson popped his own shoulder in and out in Lethal Weapon 1-275, he was doing it by acting and a sound effect. And, he was portraying one of the most highly trained and ferocious kind of military assassins from the Vietnam era. He was Special Forces in Cambodia, yadda, yadda, yadda. He was NOT a typical human being in any way. Being on the verge of suicide changes your perception of pain, too. According to my doctor, the kind of pain generated by a dislocation, pulling a bone through a hole in another bone that is SMALLER is so incredibly painful that you typically lose consciousness. That's one reason why his character was such a macho dude.

    The only reason I used the term was because I did not have another, and besides, my tics hurt like heck. There were times when I would separate my shoulder and forget where I was and what I was doing. I mean, it rebooted my brain a couple times. I had NO idea how melodramatic I was being until I asked a chiropractor about it. He gave me the term 'separation' and forgave me my very normal and human silliness.

    And, of course, while I am typing this, my shoulder is rolling like crazy. :-)
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