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    My son is in as adolescent psychiatric unit as we speak . He is 7. He told us he hears voices. He does have Tourette's. The doctor told us that because of his Tourette's , the tics he has to do probably sounds like voices to him. Is this possible? Any one else have this happen?? Need help ASAP.. Thank you in advance.

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    Mamamack,

    Is your son being treated as an in-patient? If so what prompted the hospitalization?

    Please see this Forum thread that includes Dr. Baxter's reply to another member whose daughter reported hearing voices.

    Hearing voices is a very specific symptom in mental health disorders and needs to be assessed by a competent mental health professional who has had clinical experience treating Tourette Syndrome to fully understand Tourette signs and symptoms in the context of the symptoms your son is presenting.

    To my knowledge of Tourette, hearing voices is not a symptom associated with this disorder, which should prompt an investigation into something else.

    Also to be taken into consideration is your son's age of seven, where he likely has not developed a complete sense of self awareness, so making an competent evaluation would require a pediatric mental health specialist who has the training to elicit the right information from a seven year old child for an accurate assessment.

    Has a diagnosis of schizophrenia been ruled out.
    Steve
    TouretteLinks Forum

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    • #3
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      Yes he is being treated as an inpatient. He was admitted last Wednesday. He had a meltdown the Saturday before and was hitting his head and yelling it to shut up. Said he heard voices and they were telling him to do bad stuff... like hit us, kick us, spit at us and kill us. We mad an emergency app with his psychiatrist and he said that with Tourettes , it may sound like a voice because my son is so young?? I am not sure if this is possible?

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      • #4
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        One possibility might be that he's having mental coprolalia, which is saying inappropriate things to yourself rather than out loud. It's kind of an intrusive thought.

        Just thought I'd mention this in case you want to ask your doctor if this could be what's going on.

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        • #5
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          Mamamack:
          My son used to say that he heard voices. These voices were always saying graphic, violent things, according to my son. It was very upsetting for my son and upsetting for the people who heard him talking, read his graphic stories or saw his graphic pictures. Once the psychiatrist initially dealt with the sleep issues (he was not getting into a deep sleep because of his neurology) and worked on balancing the brain chemistry with medication (initially I was completely against medication), the voices calmed down. The psychiatrist explained to me that my son was probably hearing his own internal voice (which, of course, was negative, violent and critical cue to the above-noted issues). Once the sleep and symptoms of Tourette were addressed, the voices calmed.
          I also agree that, of course, you need to work with your son's treatment team. Each child and adult with Tourette may have different symptoms and may have different medical needs. Also, since Tourette is an umbrella and there are a number of other medical/mental health issues that fall under the umbrella, the voices may be a symptom of a co-morbid condition or it may be another distinct psychiatric issue.
          My son is now 18 years old and is gainfully employed in a career that he loves. I honestly didn't know if I would ever see the day that I would be able to state that my son was doing this well. I was always hopeful and it helped when I met parents of adult children with Tourette who were doing well. It is good to hear that things may get easier for your child.
          I am glad that your son trusts you enough to tell you what it happening to him; even if it is scary and others may question him. He will need a strong advocate. I was the safe person for my son (I still am) and he has told me recently how important it was for him to know that I was there to help him even when he may didn't deserve help (according to him).

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          • #6
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            Thank you for the reply. I appreciate any insight , thoughts or ideas. He just has major surgery because he swallowed a nail and had to have it removed. This things of having to "swallow" anything he gets his hands on and bring back up is scary. He constantly gags himself and swallow things?? Is this Tourette's ? Is it a tic? Trying to figure out what disorder makes him do this? ADHD? Tourette's? Voices??

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            • #7
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              Mamamack,

              What was the outcome of your son's inpatient care? Were his doctors able to provide some insights into possible diagnoses, and future treatment plans?

              There are a number of good books available with valuable insights into Tourette, and one I just recently discovered and purchased and thought you might find informative, given the complexity of your son's situation, is the TSA book, A Family's Guide to Tourette Syndrome that is really inexpensive right now ($3.50) in a Kindle version that I am reading on my PC.

              The depth and detail of the information, I found to be better than many other similar books I've read, since they had top TS experts write each dedicated chapter.
              Steve
              TouretteLinks Forum

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              • #8
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                Not really Steve... They said the voices were most likely the Tourette's .. The compulsion to do it is so strong that it most likely sounds like voices. They are going to treat his ADHD as the most debilitating..

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                • #9
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                  Thank you Jenny. Was back at the doctor August 20 and the doctor is adamant that his voices are tic based. So he upped a med to help with said voices. Which I thought the meds were for his anxiety. UGH..... I'm soooo confused. I thought I was beginning to understand, but in reality.... I have no clue. There for I have trouble distinguishing between tics and his deliberate behavior????? Any ideas for a lost parent trying to help her son, not make it worse!!

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                  • #10
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                    So he upped a med to help with said voices.
                    What is that medication?

                    You may want to make use of the TSFC free online counseling service to answer some of your concerns
                    Steve
                    TouretteLinks Forum

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                    • #11
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                      It is sertraline?'

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                      • #12
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                        he upped a med to help with said voices. Which I thought the meds were for his anxiety.............It is sertraline
                        Sertraline is the generic name for the Zoloft, which is in the class of medications known as selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors. This is the class of medications like Prozac and Effexor among several others that were originally prescribed to treat the illnesses of depression and anxiety, and later studies showed the effectiveness of these medication in the treatment of obsessive-compulsive disorder, panic disorder, posttraumatic stress disorder, eating disorder and social anxiety disorder.

                        So if his doctor has determined that anxiety is the diagnosis to be treated, the use of sertraline would seem to be appropriate.

                        If you are unclear about the treatment plan, your son's diagnosis that is directing the treatment plan and the goal of treatment, you might want to have a detailed conversation with the doctor to address your concerns.

                        You are your son's best advocate, and you deserve to understand the doctor's rationale in selecting a particular treatment strategy.

                        This Mayo Clinic article about antidepressants for children and teens may provide some insights.

                        You mentioned the dose had been increased....from what dose to what dose?
                        Steve
                        TouretteLinks Forum

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                        • #13
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                          He went from 25mg, one in the am and on in the pm. He is now at 50mg in the am and 50mg in the pm. But its so frustrating that his meds seem to work for a short period then they seem to quit.

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                          • #14
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                            Has your son ever been prescribed sertraline (Zoloft) before and developed tolerance with time (loss of effectiveness at the prescribed dose)?

                            Sometimes people who have not responded to one compound often eventually respond to another following trial and error. This is quite common with SSRI's.

                            Is the doctor's treatment strategy to attempt to treat your son's OCD with the sertraline?
                            Steve
                            TouretteLinks Forum

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                            • #15
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                              But its so frustrating that his meds seem to work for a short period then they seem to quit.
                              Depending on the effect of the medication that the doctor wants it may take time to see if there is a long term benefit. A lot of the effects of antidepressants don't kick in for weeks to months.

                              I realize that it is frustrating but often these medications create the emotional possibility for change (there are immediate changes seen when they are taken). To make change happen they need to be combined with actions, routines, and other things that create the change. To see if any voices are going away methods of understanding what they are and properly contextualizing them has to happen.

                              If it helps I often think of my experience of the externally felt, disembodied parts of TS as a sort of "voice". Except that it is an emotional voice that does not speak in words and instead is a felt emotion that we naturally want to connect to an action. Any voices might just be how your son is responding the emotions to relieve the emotional "energy" of TS. Basically what Twiget suggested.

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