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Are there anger outbursts in people with TS?

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  • Are there anger outbursts in people with TS?

    Hello,

    I am trying to find out more about TS as I just started dating a guy who has TS. Do people with TS have anger outbursts or anything like that?

    Oakbankgal

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    is there anger outburst's in people with TS?

    Just as every person has their own personality, people with Tourettes have their own 'symptoms' as well as possibly having other psychological difficulties. These can vary from minor tics to major issues that need to be considered in each individual.

    My teenage daughter, for example, was diagnosed when she was much younger (about 6 years ago) after pulling all the hair out from one side of her head and having multiple tics. Since then, she has been on various medications to assist her in focusing her attention and controlling her tics and impulses, and for the most part has been a wonderful child.

    Any temper outbursts she has had as she grows up (usually with her little brother and older sister) have not been, in my opinion, any worse than any other child growing up. She has also shown her temper to us (her parents) on occasion, but I would think no more than many other teenagers.

    For others, their experiences will be completely different, and the doctor's who work with each person/family will assist in those people coping with their own personal situations as well as coming up with an ongoing treatment program.

    In the end, the only thing that could be said over a message board like this is each case must be looked at on it's own, and that everyones experiences can be very different.

    From the TSFC website article ...

    MYTH: Anger and Rage are much more common in TS. These words do not reflect a single type of behaviour. The behaviour we label needs to be further delineated as to what precedes and follows the behaviour, how long the build-up takes, the duration of the episode, and what makes it better or worse. (This is the same kind of careful analysis we are expected to do with any symptom.) Although angry episodes can indeed be a major problem for some persons with TS, many children and adults without TS have bad tempers, too.
    Claims that this is more common amongst those with TS, or has unique characteristics, should be tempered with caution until better information is available. We are now seeing the ultimate confusion: children or adults referred without any tic history, but whose outbursts of anger are interpreted as "tic equivalents." (We might as well interpret any other symptoms or changes as tics or as related to the still unfound "TS gene," as some authored colleagues do. Although this seems to satisfy some who would like a complete explanation for everything, it seems more like spreading a concept to the point where it becomes scientifcally meaningless.)

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    • #3
      is there anger outburst's in people with TS?

      My fiancee has TS, and he has outbursts. Although it does say it is a myth, we were told by his doctor that it is a symptom of TS. His father has TS as well, and he suffers from outbursts of anger as well.

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      • #4
        is there anger outburst's in people with TS?

        I think the difference with the anger or 'rage' issue can be seen in the triggers. My daughter is set off by not being able to complete the compulsions that follow the obsessions. That's understandable since that's what causes her stress. By the same token, these are the little things, as opposed to more major stresses that tend to set off people without TS.

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        • #5
          is there anger outburst's in people with TS?

          Yes agreed. I know for my Fiancee, he gets angry over simple things. Usually over something such as something is not where it is suppose to be.

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          • #6
            is there anger outburst's in people with TS?

            My son who is 11 yrs old now does have temper outbursts also. And when he gets this way alot of his tics come out on him too

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            • #7
              is there anger outburst's in people with TS?

              Cookie,

              My fiancee as well. When he gets angry, his tics become more pronounce and more frequent

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              • #8
                is there anger outburst's in people with TS?

                It has been suggested that people afflicted with TS have a higher baseline level of anxiety, which can result in an anger or rage reaction when an additional anxiety provoking situation is added.

                So while most people might cope with a particular stimulus, A TS person might just get pushed over the edge.

                Perhaps some light duty psychological support or behavioral modification along with the support of a loved one can help the TS person recognize the onset of a rage reaction and learn abortive strategies.

                Though it does not work every time for me, it is the way I try to cope with this type of behaviour in myself.

                I am not aware of scientific evidence supporting this particular claim, but it has been anecdotally reported.
                Steve

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                • #9
                  is there anger outburst's in people with TS?

                  Personally, coming from a person with TS, its not that anger or rage is a symptom of TS. But people with TS are going to have outbursts of anger from time to time. (myself included) It mainly stems from the fact that they are experiencing a tic and it is frustrating them. But no one else really knows what to do or say, combined with that sometimes the TS patient doesnt know either. From all this, your only release seems to be anger. I never have a had a tic that was of anger or rage. I have had tics that frustrated me and due to other outside implacations (already being in a bad mood or being unable to preform a simple task due to the TS) it made me angry. But also relize, the person with TS is not really mad at any single person, they are just angry with the situation they are in.
                  The other day at a local grocery store, I saw a rack with books on it and one of them said, "pregancy for dummies"............

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                  • #10
                    is there anger outburst's in people with TS?

                    yes, i agree with that, myself have had some anger problem but i didnt know why, i yell had my fammily and i didnt even know why,


                    but when my anger start to get high,, ususally that means that my tics are gonna come bak in a couple of days.


                    do any of the parent or person who has ts seem to notice this??

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                    • #11
                      is there anger outburst's in people with TS?

                      My son was recently put on risperdol to help control his temper tandrums. and he also got ADD/ADHD which he is on meds for that too. He was also recently diagnosed with oppositional defiant deficite..i think that's what it is called.......I could say something was white, and he would argue with me that it be blue or red.

                      He's 11 now....and will be 12 in Oct. and as for me...I don't see a light at the end of the tunnel ...to me he is just getting worse and worse.

                      His ped. doctor don't want to put him on meds just yet for his tourrette's. He said the meds are very toxic to a child. So right now I"m just taking one day at a time, that's all we as parents can do.

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                      • #12
                        is there anger outburst's in people with TS?

                        Hi Cookie7479

                        I don't see a light at the end of the tunnel ...to me he is just getting worse and worse
                        There will be light at the end of tunnel soon. Unfortunately your son is at the age where the tics and other related disorders are at their worst. Growth, dealing with other kids at this age, raging hormones, etc. all conspire to make this a very difficult time for kids dealing with TS and related disorders. The worst period for my son was from about 11 to 14. Since the age of 14 he has been improving steadily.

                        The thing we found most useful for our son was to have him meet other people -- both adults and children -- with TS so he knew that there were other people out there going through some of the same things he was. We got involved with our local chapter, and took him to conferences.

                        We also wanted to make sure he was as comfortable as possible with himself. Part of that was achieved by meeting others with TS. We also made sure that he was well informed about TS. He has become an advocate for himself as well as for others. This has helped him greatly. He is no longer concerned about his tics and largely because of this, most other people are not bothered by them either.

                        We tried to involve him as much as possible in the decisions about medications. He only took medication for his tics when the tics were so bad that they were stopping him from doing schoolwork. He made the decision to try a medication for the tics.

                        Parenting a child with TS and related disorders is not an easy task. You need to be calm when you feel like exploding. You need to repeat information and instructions over and over. You need to constantly teach the teachers about your child. You need to stand up to doctors who don't always understand the symptoms your child is showing at home, but does not display in the office. Just as you get used to one set of behaviours and tics, they change again. You need to be patient when the patience of Job would be tested. Above all, you need to show your child you love him, over and over, because sometimes that gets lost when you are dealing with everything else.


                        I hope things improve for you son. Let us know if the Risperdal is helping.
                        Cathy
                        Forum Moderator

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                        • #13
                          is there anger outburst's in people with TS?

                          Yes, unfortunately that is the worst time for tourettes. I know my "worst years" were from age 10 to 12. I remember right around the beginning of junior high seemed to be when the tics calmed down and I found ways to control them better. I havent had a major vocal tic since then and again I have found ways to control my tics. It seems as if when the child matures, the he/she finds ways to control themselves. (thats not a medical fact, just an opinion) But dont worry, it will get better. The best thing you can do right now for him is just be there when he needs you, and actually leave him alone when he wants to be left alone. He is just going through something that unfortunately not too many other people can relate to, or at least people close to him. I always recommend that if you know of anyone, friend or family, with TS to let your son meet them. Especially if they are an adult and they can see that this disorder will not end all hope to living a normal life. This is just a life obstacle and EVERYONE goes thorugh those, its just a matter of how you handl;e it. Just hang in there cookie, you guys will get through it but dont be afraid to ask anything about TS in the forums!
                          The other day at a local grocery store, I saw a rack with books on it and one of them said, "pregancy for dummies"............

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                          • #14
                            is there anger outburst's in people with TS?

                            Thanks admin1 and Adam. The risperdol seems to be working even tho he's only been taking it for 2 weeks now.
                            As far as the teachers, I think they should take some training to deal with kids that has TS. Sometimes it makes me wonder if they even know what is going on. When my son first was diagnosed with TS , I had no clue what it was. So I bought the books off this site to help me understand and what to expect, and what was coming. I should tell them if they want to borrow them and read up on it, they are more than welcome to use them. I know it sure helped me to understand things.

                            He goes to grade 6 in Sept. I hope I can get him settled more before he starts Jr. High, cause that's where the trouble is gonna come. Right now, they call home if he's disrupting the class. He wants to stay in school, cause when I get the call to come and get him, he don't want to leave.
                            He's also on ritalin. He takes 20 mg slow release in the morning before he leaves for school, then takes 10 mg at 11 am , then another 10 mg at 2 pm. For his age and weight the doctor said we still got room to mess with the dosage until we get it right because he should be on 70 mg a day, or maybe the ritalin won't work for him. The doctor did say something about maybe starting him on Concerta, so maybe his next visit that might take place, but not sure yet.

                            Thanks for all your help. Reading the other postings in the forum sure answered some questions for me too.

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                            • #15
                              is there anger outburst's in people with TS?

                              Cookie,

                              Glad to hear the Forum resources were of assistance. Feel free to continue participating in our online community, keeping us posted on your son's development as well as sharing your own experience with others looking for info and advice.

                              Hope you will choose to become an active member of the TSFC to help support the activities of the Foundation in Nova Scotia.

                              Regards,
                              Steve

                              Dum spiro spero....While I breathe, I hope

                              Tourette Canada Homepage
                              If you enjoy the TC Forum, please consider a Tourette Canada membership
                              Please visit our sister Forum: Psychlinks Psychology and Mental Health Support Forum

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